Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/16/2000 03:30 PM House HES

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HB 427 - POSTSECONDARY LOAN PROGRAM:SCHOOL YR                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0450                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON announced the next  order of business as HOUSE BILL                                                              
NO. 427, "An Act  relating to the school year for  purposes of the                                                              
postsecondary   student  loan  program;   and  providing   for  an                                                              
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0468                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MILTON  BYRD,  President,  Charter  College,  Member,  Alaska                                                              
Commission of Postsecondary Education,  came forward to present HB
427.   He  explained that  HB 427  is  a technical  change in  the                                                              
statute authorizing the administration  of the Alaska Student Loan                                                              
Program.   The  current  definition  indicates that  students  can                                                              
receive  one loan  every 12  months.   This bill  changes that  to                                                              
permit an  institution  to offer a  fast-track program  consistent                                                              
with  legitimate requirements  or  length of  time  to justify  an                                                              
academic  year.   The  U.S.  Department  of Education  defines  an                                                              
academic  year  as  30 weeks  of  instruction;  most  institutions                                                              
follow that, using  either two 15-week semesters  or three 10-week                                                              
quarters.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. BYRD  said this change,  from a 12-month  period to  a 30-week                                                              
period to  qualify for a loan,  permits an institution to  offer a                                                              
fast-track program  and shorten  the traditional four-year  degree                                                              
for  students who  have the  energy and  desire to  pursue such  a                                                              
degree with  few, if  any, breaks  between terms.   This  bill was                                                              
taken up  at a meeting of  the Alaska Commission  of Postsecondary                                                              
Education this morning and was endorsed by the commission.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0574                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. BYRD requested  a small change  in HB 427, to delete  the word                                                              
"occurs" in line  6 and add the word "begins."   The word "occurs"                                                              
could be misinterpreted, he explained,  and the original draft had                                                              
the word "begins" in it.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE asked for clarification.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. BYRD  explained that  "occurs" between  those periods  of time                                                              
could  be interpreted  to mean  beginning and  ending during  that                                                              
time.   So if it begins  in that period,  a student could  begin a                                                              
second term  in that same  period of time.   The word  "begins" is                                                              
more precise than "occurs."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BYRD  observed  that  there  is a  slight  cost  benefit  for                                                              
students.   Over  the years,  analysis  has shown  that the  major                                                              
expense of attending  college is the foregone income.   The income                                                              
not earned  during the time someone  attends college is  more than                                                              
50 percent  of the  cost of attending  college.   If a  student is                                                              
able  to finish  in  less than  four  years and  go  to work,  the                                                              
student's cost of education is reduced.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0904                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KEMPLEN made a  motion to  adopt an amendment  "to                                                              
substitute the word 'begins' for  'occurs' on line 6, for purposes                                                              
of discussion."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KEMPLEN noted  that the  substitution changes  the                                                              
legislation because  now it allows for a school year  to go beyond                                                              
August 31 of the following year.  He asked for clarification.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON  said he doesn't believe  it sets a maximum  on how                                                              
many weeks the  school can go.   It only has to be  a minimum, and                                                              
it can start anytime during that  period; a student could actually                                                              
start two terms during that period.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1120                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE  noted that the original bill said  all 30 of                                                              
the weeks  had to  fall between September  1 and  August 31.   The                                                              
amendment  says that a  student can  lapse over  August 31  in the                                                              
program.   He wondered if  that would  be considered two  years or                                                              
one year.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON said  the real thing here is the money.   It allows                                                              
students to complete it and then  start their second academic year                                                              
within a calendar year, and to have  access to the funding for it.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BYRD agreed.    If a  student enrolled  on  September 1,  the                                                              
beginning of  the loan  year, then 30  weeks will have  transpired                                                              
seven months  and a week and a  half later; the student  will have                                                              
completed  one academic  year of  the four years  for a  four-year                                                              
degree.   The  following day,  theoretically,  that student  could                                                              
start a second academic year, and  a little more than seven months                                                              
later would  have completed a second  year.  If the  schedule were                                                              
written properly, that  student would be able to  complete a four-                                                              
year degree in two and a half years.   During that year and a half                                                              
saved, the  student would be  earning money that  otherwise he/she                                                              
couldn't earn if he/she took four years to complete the degree.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE  said "The issue  is we want that  student to                                                              
be  able to  apply for  and receive  four years  of student  loans                                                              
because he  is paying for  four years of  tuition.  That's  why we                                                              
want 'begins' instead of 'occurs.'"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON  asked Ms. Barrans whether the  department endorses                                                              
this and doesn't have any problems with it.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1258                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DIANE   BARRANS,   Executive  Director,   Alaska   Commission   on                                                              
Postsecondary   Education,  Department   of   Education  &   Early                                                              
Development, came forward.  She confirmed  that the commission did                                                              
review this legislation at its meeting  earlier today and acted to                                                              
endorse  it.    The  commission  consulted  with  other  four-year                                                              
institutions  in  the  state  and  explained  that  this  bill  is                                                              
relatively invisible to them.  In  the event that the institutions                                                              
proposed  accelerated  degree  programs, they  would  offer  their                                                              
students the same benefit.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON noted that he has  a perceived conflict of interest                                                              
because he  had been a student  at Dr. Byrd's institution  and has                                                              
received advice from Dr. Byrd on educational issues.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE  asked whether  there was still  an objection                                                              
to the amendment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN withdrew his objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1323                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN  made a motion to move HB  427, as amended,                                                              
out of committee  with individual recommendations  and zero fiscal                                                              
note.   There being  no objection,  CSHB 427(HES)  moved from  the                                                              
House Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                 

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